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Dear Mk,
You had been registering at frugilove.
seeking for:
I am looking for a vegan rawfoodist.

report:
We only support advertising-free fruitarian members.

Regards¬ good luck, Fruit-Admin

http://www.frugilove.com/


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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Fruitarian terms


Dear Fr, you had been registering at frugilove.
Please take note, that frugilove is reserved for fruitarians only.

Dear Fr thank you for your reply and your cooperation.Your profile will be activated.

I appreciate it very much, that you are living on fruits only.
The question, wether you are a fruitarian was a check in question, as we won' t register common dietists at our fruitarian dating site.
to get registered:
frugilove is specially reserved for fruitarians.
We are the first exclusive fee free fruitarian dating site of the world and that is more than good..
Of course i love also (Karma) Yoga and the best raw fruitarian food.
The virtual meal is 100 % fruitarian as i am too. The creamy stuff is a almond-olive-lemon-cream. All the best 2 U. ons@ru

Thank you too, specially for your profil-updating..


Thank You. Nice little page you have. I have been longing for sites like this. For a while there (last 5 years) it seemed fruitarians were gone from the globe.

Oh yes it took me 7 years to finsih this work..i am soory it took so long..

Our first fruitarian homepage i opened about 1996. It was a Ahimsa-Hubble-telescope-sensible-roll page. It was also fun.

Creating and searching all kind of fruitarian dating sites, carrying the fruitarian theme i found http://www.veggieromance.com
i had been so happy and still i am, because Simon and Chris are also pioneers by supporting the fruitarian integration.


Who runs Veggie Romance ?
Blue Compass Ltd - a privately held UK Limited Company which is run by Simon & Chris.

fruitarian boards had been still born and dying mostly in silence, but where is life it grows, even little forums spread all over the world.
The fruitarians seem to be undestructable funny and intelligent, what ever that means to the rest of the world.. Since http://www.veggielove.de had been prgrammed from Thomas, he is supporting fruitarians aswell. (Fruchtesser) that is quite a revolution in good old Germany.

On top of it i had good luck, because i know the most beautyful fruitarians on this planet, i guess.

We help eachother and study more or less the same ..even with different professions.
I had been asked from a very close fruitarian friend to open the first exclusive fruitarian dating site of the world, because the fruitarians had been suffering most of all, trying to find like-minded partners.
I was happy, because she had a similar idea, as we had been feeling the familiar lonelyness all over the world.
My wish to meet other fruitarians fulfilled - by another miracle Mango and me found in my neighbourhood on the fruit-market..
http://www.fruitnut.net

I had been reading your profile, and i would like to talk via skype to you. We seem to have similar interests. Also i am also studying the nature plant animals anything ..what we need to know.
Fruitarian regards, ons@ru

----- Original Message -----
From: fr
To: RS
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian dating site



On 5/6/07, wrote:
Dear Fr thank you for your reply and your cooperation.Your profile will be activated.


I appreciate it very much, that you are living on fruits only.

Me too.


Good. So I assume that all is ok now. (I still did not find that check, but I happily tested and could login). Does that mean that I do not have to change any "check"? Anyway, nice people listed.

My favourite fruits are chocolate pudding fruit (black sapte) that I ate in Australia, Durian that I ate in Thailand, Pakistani Mango (that a pakistani friend gave me in London, three days from harvest privately shipped), Watermelon and large green figs that I ate in Libya, and a very swedish apple, called Aina (a very local type grown on a swedish island).



All the best 2 U.

The same to you.



ons@ru


----- Original Message -----
From: fr:
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian dating site


On 5/6/07, wrote:

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Fruitarian terms


Dear Fr, you had been registering at frugilove.
Please take note, that frugilove is reserved for fruitarians only.

I am, but I never thought I had to write that. It should be a given. I did not see a slot for what diet one follows. My hobby is yoga, so I put that in. Where did it say, WRITE you are a fruitarian?

Furthermore, I have since I joined not been able to log in with my email and password so I have not been able to change anything...


----- Original Message -----
From: fr
To: RS
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian dating site


Hi Rudolf,

>>> Thank you too, specially for your profil-updating..



>>> Our first fruitarian homepage i opened about 1996. Meanwhile i had been writing about 2000 articles about fruitarianism and from my over 70 fruitarian domains i keept only a few.

Wow, that's a lot. How could I have missed that? What is your main language in all these articles? I noticed that some on the site "spoke" italian (I think). What country are you from?

My articles are mainly written in German and i am living in Spain. Our page is hold in different languages to cover the global fruitarian spreading-effect.
The fruitarians on our site come from all over the world, that is the reason you will find different languages in the profiles.

>>> I had been asked from a very close fruitarian friend to open the first exclusive fruitarian dating site of the world, because the fruitarians had been suffering most of all, trying to find like-minded partners. I was happy, because she had a similar idea, as we had been feeling the familiar lonelyness all over the world.

We are a small group as of yet, but now it seems to be growing a little stronger.

A lot of fruitarians do not know eachother and they are living in some sort of stand alone mode in different countrys in their private homes.
The Internet had been opening big doors from our seperated world in quantum jumps and suddenly we are able to communicate all over the world.
Every day more people want to live a fruitarian life for various reasons, as food scandals, ethical and philosophical aspects, climate-change consequences, nonviolence practice as Kamra-cleaner, respecting animal- earth- human- and also and plant-rights. http://pelagus.net


>>> My wish to meet other fruitarians fulfilled - by another miracle Mango and me found in my neighbourhood on the fruit-market..

Cool, I have a page there: http://fruitnut.net/HTML/106_Breathx_Fast_Fred.htm

He is very nice. Calm, collected and polite.

You hit the nail on the head. That's Mango, as he is.

>>> I had been reading your profile, and i would like to talk via skype to you.

Lets stick with email this month. First off, I do not have a microphone for my computer (not even my computer ) and this month is super-hectic. I am having all sorts of math exams, and the third semester at university-level is pure madness. We are supposed to understand like a million complex things in one weeks time. I will not be "normal" until June I think. But I just had to register me when I found your wonderful site.

Let's do it as you sayed, as we have a lot to do. All will come in time.
Now it is also your wonderful site, because it is authentical unique, even when it is small, what does not matter to me, as the first step had to be done, and the second follows..



>>> We seem to have similar interests. Also i am also studying the nature plant animals anything ..what we need to know.

Nice. I do not think I will give upp eating herbs this life. In my vision there is just to much potential there. I agree with for example Loren Lockman (which I met some years back in Sweden) that the body can do a lot just by itself, and that fasting is a great healer. However, I am pro-herbs, and especially since we have so many toxic things in our "modern" (orc-like) society.

Fruitarian regards, Fr
We had some fruitarian discussions about herb eating some years ago and it turned out that we have to roll it up from different points of fews, to see and learn about our human natural function combined with responsible acts.

May be we should make a fruitarian gattering to investigate fruitarian points of few directly in the nature.
f.e. Climbing up mountains barefoot is also connected with the theme, how to treat or leave the earth, animals and plants right..

It is about to know, who, what, why, how we are, where we are coming from, where we are, also where we are going or leaving.

We explore ourselfes and what reactions our responsible acts cause, while we are learning to act and react in tune with the earth..
trying to integrate all human knowledge from the beginning and it works..
you may proove it to yourself.
I guess, that i even could survive in the cold Sweden as a fruitarian..
It may be more difficult in the beginning and a lot work, to survive the long winters..(collecting a lot of berries and nuts, aswell some seeds.. all what a fruitarian needs.

In Alsaka, i would have serious problems to survive without fruits..

Anyhow, i' d never thought that i would give up my old habits to continue a life without eating garlic and onions, potatos, roots, fresh herbs, sprouts, and most of the seeds..
you may imagine my early withdrawal effects caused by my old food-adiction during the change, full of doubts that time..

How happy i am that i survive gladly until today..I think it was no mistake to fall back into my eldest life-habit, when i began to live as a frugivore (frugivorous) again..

I am also pro herbs, as i try not to eat them. Little fruitarian childs are capable to try every eatable herb and root in their investigating time during their growing up process..
When we meet one day i will show you, how i learned to aplicate the fruitarian knowledge about the very interesting fruitarian herb-treatment and i am still learning..How about that?..

Fruityful regards ons@ru




Hi R,
Dear Fr

WOW, what a nice lemon-picture. Is it true that lemons sometimes are sweet, picked directly from the tree?
At least they taste sweeter..
Depend what lemon class you are eating gives you different results. The taste of my lemons are not destructible acid-sour, because i have the eldest variety of the village. It is an exquisit art to know, how to eat lemon in different ways. I had been told from a spanish man how they do it.

>>> I am also pro herbs, as i try not to eat them.

Hehe. That was a good come back, turning my words like that. You are right of course, but only from a higher perspective. In paradise I am sure that no living entity is ever killed or maimed. There, everybody is pro-everybody.

Of course i take it from a level and perspective i can deal with.

However, I have chosen a less saintly path, which is pragmatic for me.

I had simply no other joice.

>>> When we meet one day i will show you, how i learned to aplicate the fruitarian knowledge about the very interesting fruitarian herb-treatment and i am still learning..How about that?..

Interesting, but I am not sure I understood you right. Do you, or do you not eat herbs?

I am not eating herbs, neigther i am picking growing herbs, but i can take theoreticaly a little ammount of ripe leafs, short while before they fall down from the tree, or i can take fallen leafs after a storm, if they are needed, wich is very seldom..

>>> May be we should make a fruitarian gattering to investigate fruitarian points of few directly in the nature. f.e. Climbing up mountains barefoot is also connected with the theme, how to treat or leave the earth, animals and plants right..

Good idea.

>>> I guess, that i even could survive in the cold Sweden as a fruitarian.. It may be more difficult in the beginning and a lot work, to survive the long winters..(collecting a lot of berries and nuts, aswell some seeds.. all what a fruitarian needs.

I do not think a fruitarian needs seeds.

You are completely right and seeds are mostly bird food..neigther i want to be dogmatic..

I just tell you, what i know about it, as i had been investigating the fruitarian diet about 40 years.

Fruitarians eat also seeds, even without jewing them, as apple, Banana, Tomato, Pepper.
Also we can take Anis, fennel, Kumin seeds in little ammounts..
but i also i have to say, that they are not necessary, unless you have to cure a sickness with them.
If you had been eating a toxic froot, from the GEN-farm you may need some fennel...
As wild fennel is growing in my garden,
i eat some of it..you may count the little soft grains.lets say one tablespoon every year..

Anywho, Sweden is somewhat of a challenge when one is a fruit lover. That is probably why I have been traveling a lot in my life. Of all countries I have been to I have become "attached" to India. I think I will move there some year very soon, most probably to West Bengal, somewhere between Calcutta and Mount Everest. It is a really green and lush area, and it is the greatest fruit producer area of India. My decision is of how high up I would like to live, both north wise and height wise. In a way it would be nice to start a totally "New Eden" in a place where basically no one lives now, which means higher up. It would be very interesting to build a fruitarian community there.

I also think about going back to India. My Tendency is more Nepal.. In the Moment i live in the India of Europe.
Here it is similar like Rajastan, except the people.
I like the Indian mentality..
In Bavaria or Berlin / Germany i could also live, but may be i do not know yet, what will happen.

The "popular" alternative (I think) is the island path, with a lot of swimming in the choral reefs and so on. Although I like that too, like I did in Thailand, while eating three durians a day I still prefer the mountain path with loads of small springs of pure water coming down the mountains. One can always build huge swimming pool variations that the mountain spring water flows through and by. Of course one has to give up swimming with sharks and dolphins but having these "natural" pools is as great in its own way, and the mountain scenery by far makes up for any lack in my eyes.

Indeed, you are trying to find paradise...

>>> i' d never thought that i would give up my old habits to continue a life without eating garlic and onions, potatos, roots, fresh herbs, sprouts, and most of the seeds..

You eat some seeds then? I saw an article in kveta's place, where nuts were heavily blasted. What do you think about that? I do not have a clue, but I am not nuts about seeds at all, so it does not really affect me either way.

I know about the discussion about and i want to give you my opinion about it:

Gernrally i aggree mostly with Mangos experiences, as we had time to meet and talk for real.
Fruitarians eat mainly the fruits with the seeds and some seeds they spitt out, as plum-or sharp cherry-seeds.
A apple seed will only get vertil, when the apple seed had been passing our digestion- system.
You may try to plant an apple tree..
If you use an apple seed and plant it straight into the earth it might never grow..when it had been predigested, the growing blockers are removed and the apple tree beginns to grow..
An apple has to foul away to make the apple-seed grow-able..

Let's hold a fruitarian congress, comes next..

The nuts i am able to open with my mouth i can eat in little ammounts, if there is no fruit arround.
Allergic reactions are indicating our limits and the end of our terms to use, because some nuts are reacting toxic in our body..
I accept, when other fruitarians eat nuts, but as you do, i am not really on nut-eating..i do not like the bitter taste of the skins..
nor the allergic reactions i am deverloping. Nuts are just part of a emergency plan in a fruitarian food hirarchy and come much later.

I eat very view nuts, may be 10 walnuts a year, or even less, mostly none.
That is the case when i get invitetd from none-fruitarians offering me food.
To be polite, i had been eating some nuts out of their hands, even, when i do not like them very much.
I never liked them, as they make my mouth rough.

Neighter i am eating much almonds, because it is to much work for me to open them..
Also i feel a little sickness after eating almonds and other nuts, just inconfortable.

I can only take nuts as a heavy digestable compromise, when i made some cream out of them f.e. a fruitarian demonstation like a salad dressing for frustrated foodadicts, who do not know, what to eat anymore.
i had been developing a collection of fruitarian recepies.
Mainly my ex-Eva girl-friend gort bored easy and she wanted to have fruitarian recepies better, then fresh apples for six month and of course i made fruitarian food with her.

Usually i am a simple man happy with a tomato, red peppers cucumbers, avocados, lemon, Olives, oliveoil..and the fruits of the saison. much more i do not eat.

What am i eating precisely?

I am eating the ripe fruits of the season and i do not import stuff from other countries, except some bananas from tenerife and Kardamom from India..

>>> A lot of fruitarians do not know eachother and they are living in some sort of stand alone mode in different countrys in their private homes. The Internet had been opening big doors from our seperated world in quantum jumps and suddenly we are able to communicate all over the world. Every day more people want to live a fruitarian life for various reasons...

My reason is primarily for health, both physical, energetical, emotional and mental. I think Earth can be a great place even without a single fruitarian. In my eyes it is not only possible to be either a super-destructive meat eater or a super-saintly fruitarian. There are a lot of good alternatives in between. I think that the best argument for the fruitarian way is the immense improvement the fruit has on ones own life, such as higher energy levels, purer and healthier body and so on.

without fruitarians on this planet? unthinkable..

fruitarian health: global, philosophical, physical, energetical, emotional, mental, spiritual, political, universal..



fruitarian perma-culture in Spain..


It is not the question of being destructive or a saint..
it is a answer to be fruitarian for different reasons..
If it would be all the same,
we would not clear the difference in between f.e. the raw foodists and fruitarians..they are quite different

The main principle of the fruitarian philosopy may be Manu, Adam and Eve, Buddha, or the Evolution..
The fruitarian philosophy is some sort of fruit diplomatics arround the nonviolence principle, Indians call it AHIMSA, as it is prayed in all Goverments, Relgions, and ethical statements..

that what i am hurting or killing i would not eat..
Neither i am going out to hurt or to kill, as pain and dead come at their own.
I have not to search further violence.
also i know that i am the earth and graveyard for many microarganisms the same time..
I am not more holy then you or any other organism. Life is completely unsentimental.


>>> My articles are mainly written in German

Aha, that's why I never saw them.
here are some..

the heavy stuff first:
http://vegan-central.de/foren/usrall.php...ruchtesser
http://www.urhorn.de/wieBS/modules.php?name=Forums
http://www.iphpbb.com/board/fs-41245119nx50656.html


>>> and i am living in Spain.

Oh oranges! I love oranges. It is my favorite fruit. Although I sometimes say durian and so on, oranges is the first fruit for me. There are two categories of favorite according to me. The first is the most festive fruit, that is like durian or chocolate sapote, but the other is the answer of the question; "if only one fruit for the rest of you life, which", then orange is the sure winner for me. My mother told me that when she became pregnant with me she suddenly started eating oranges like crazy. From one day to another she just LOVED oranges. It is clear that I was orange-crazy my last life too. It is a kind of cool fact.

When I move to India I just have to pass by Spain and bring some hundreds of Spanish orange-trees. Spanish oranges is the best. In India the oranges is a poor shadow at best.

Spain has a similar climate..and the oranges are just wonderful good.

>>> Our page is hold in different languages to cover the global fruitarian spreading-effect. The fruitarians on our site are from all over the world, that is the reason you will find different languages in the profiles.

Aha!

>>> All will come in time.

I am sure, and I look forward to it.

>>> Now it is also your wonderful site,

Whiiieeeeeee...

>>> you may imagine my early withdrawal effects caused by my old food-adiction during the change, full of doubts that time.. How happy i am that i survive gladly until today..I think it was no mistake to fall back into my eldest life-habit, when i began to live as a frugivore (frugivorous) again..



Fruityful regards, Fredrik, ons@ru
Dear fredrik,


may i put our fruitarian conference into our furitarian forum? It is so intersting aswell for other fruitarians.
I had to answer similar questions various times and i will try to answer in English.


Dear R

>>> I am not eating herbs, neither am I picking growing herbs.

But you do weed, do you not?

During my investigating time i did both seperately to study the ethic, philosophic, practical, spiritual effects of my deeds.

I mean, is it not necessary to pull all kinds of herbs to enable the fruit plants to grow, for example strawberries?

The strawberries take care of there own, since i had been planting them.

Sometimes i give my friends some strawberriechilds to grow them in there gardens.

Karmic points of few..

If there are invadorplants or animals destroing the strawberries, i throw them out of my garden.

You can be sure, that the conversation works.

There are a lot of plants attacing others to take there places.

If you cultivate strawberries, then you can control them from the very beginning, moving the every morning and evening with you fingertips and you will see, that not one plant will grow a seed there. You even have not to kill, because you keep your culture moving.

That means that you would be a lot of time in the garden. This is a acceptable fruitarian method, without killing.

In Nature it is completely different.

In Nature fruitarians do not have to cultivat, nor to kill, because the nature takes care of herself (in German nature is a SHE)

The nonviolent way is a privilege of very few fruitarians on this planet and it is a happy path, for very blessed humans.

That is the golden way of paradise. Only stable charakters aer able to walk that road.

What about all the plants that the fruit industry "kills" so that we can buy our fruit?

You are right. I fyou know all that, you can decide what you are doing, that is your responsibility.

Ther is a hirarchy of actions and reactions, depend, what we are doing, or not doing, thinking and preventing, with all our little fears, and doubts, when we grow up.

We go all through that and it makes us adult, experienced strong, knowing and sometimes wise, depend what we had been going though.

Sometimes i want to be young again to get rid of my scratched back and the bumps, to see with my fresh eyes, but knowing..

The other side arround i want not to be young, because i am much happier that i had been thrue the childhood..

Of course i will be all my life the same, as i never change, only time changes, and the time changes me in time..so i have not to be bothered, because i am at home anytime.

i was such a difficult boy, when i felt not loved..



Keeping fields of orange trees needs a lot of plant-"killing", right, ...

with the oranges it is the same..

there are different methods with diffent karmic results.

I take care about my trees and in Germany i had never been cutting a fruittree. They had never been injured. They had been high and we had been climbing up to fetch the ripe fruits.

The violent part came later and i was sorry that i had to learn so rough. I did not earn another thing.

That is my responsibility how i am acting and reacting againand again. It is so simple, nobody can describe.

that does not make me better or worse tehn any other life.

If i am attacted i am prepared to defend myself. Since some years animals do not attac me anymore, not even the insects. Very seldom Moscitos.

I have to control my net or my cave and keep it clean.

If i am awake, i do not have to kill anybody.

In my case the insects do usually not smash my car screen anymore, because we agreed that Insects shall suicid where else, if the want it for granted.

I made myself clear that i am a fruitarian without will to kill and i expected the insects to honor that detail with respect of my privacy.

Since that time all animals are my friends.

There are still some animals they are afraid of me, because i had been killing them in the past.

Meanwhile we respect eachother and leave eachother in peace, because in the past i had been really fighting with them.

I made myself clear that this i sm y home i have to take care of and that i will take my responsibility to protect my little plot of paradise as good as i can..

My lemon trees had been cut some years ago and i had to learn to cut only dry and ill parts, or overstressed endless-growing shooters, to safe the tree from dying..

That is heavy Karma and i promise with my life that i do not like to cut any tree, only when it is necessary, to save them.

That happens here, as this is a desserting zone and a lot of trees are suffering, less mine.

and if we pay these dudes and dudettes to weed for us, we are as guilty as they are.

You are right, and i try to make it as good as i can. For that reason i try to buy only biological food, if my garden is not enough.

One time a week we drive to the bio-market with a contamining car. In the moment i am working on it to reduce the car, until it is not necessary anymore.

The problem here is, that we do not enough biological food in the village yet. But that will hopefully change soon.

I had been also flying in the past and i try, not to fly anymore.

Better to be settled at one good place the whole live. If one wants to travel, he can go by bike or just walk. Nowadays all is still possible. Since seven years i am walking barefoot everywhere anywhere, exept the dirty places

I am sure you agree with me. If not, then it means you really are a saint, if you really really really can stay out of all plant killing both on your own and by giving other money.

Just a minute ago i told you that i am no saint.

the holy carries also the past..

later more i have got visit right know...ons@ru

My reason for this inquiry is just to introduce a level of thinking sometimes missed. If the reason for fruitarianism is ethical rather than for health, then should not these ethics rule equally in all spheres of life regardless if one eat the victims or not? I consider myself very ethical, but I also want to live an honest and pragmatic life.

>>> but i can theoretically take a little amount of ripe leafs, short while before they fall down from the tree, or i can take fallen leafs after a storm, if they are needed, which is very seldom..

OK, so in the realm of eating you do not harm herbs. Nice. How about all other areas of life? Do you own anything made of wood? Do you write on paper? The list goes on and actually, the way to live to avoid all these is to be a full fledged yogi, which would be very nice if possible, I agree, but it is so far above my own purity and character, that I do not consider it practical at the moment.

>>> neither i want to be dogmatic..

Good, dogmatism usually harms. Just look at the dogmatic so called religions. How much have they not broken the rule of ahimsa?

>>> I just tell you, what i know about it, as i had been investigating the fruitarian diet about 40 years. Fruitarians eat also seeds, even without chewing them, as apple, Banana, Tomato, Pepper.

Wow, how old are you? I just love figs, and eating figs would be such an incredible hassle if one had to remove the seeds.

>>> Also we can take Anis, fennel, Kumin seeds in little ammounts.. but i also i have to say, that they are not necessary, unless you have to cure a sickness with them.

I really like those herbs (seeds), especially fennel. However, in my eyes they are not really very curative are they? If so, what ailments do they cure? I suppose they have a general balancing effect and I think I remember that fennel is balancing for the mind (a sattvic herb).

>>> If you had been eating a toxic froot, from the GEN-farm you may need some fennel...

Really, I did not have a clue! So fennel just become even nicer.

>>> As wild fennel is growing in my garden, i eat some of it.. you may count the little soft grains, lets say one tablespoon every year..



>>> Fruitarians eat mainly the fruits with the seeds and some seeds they spit out, as plum-or sharp cherry-seeds. An apple seed will only get fertile, when the apple seed had been passing our digestion- system. You may try to plant an apple tree.. If you use an apple seed and plant it straight into the earth it might never grow.. when it had been predigested, the growing blockers are removed and the apple tree begins to grow.. An apple has to foul away to make the apple-seed grow-able..

Interesting.

>>> The nuts i am able to open with my mouth i can eat in little amounts, if there is no fruit around. Allergic reactions are indicating our limits and the end of our terms to use, because some nuts are reacting toxic in our body.. I accept, when other fruitarians eat nuts, but as you do, i am not really on nut-eating..i do not like the bitter taste of the skins.. nor the allergic reactions i am developing.

Hehe, who likes to be allergic?

>>> Nuts are just part of a emergency plan in a fruitarian food hierarchy and come much later.

In my eyes, nuts is outside the fruit "hierarchy". Fruit is what is between the seeds and the outer protective layer (the package). I do not mind eating the seeds of the fig, since I am focused on eating the fig flesh. However, when there is NO FRUIT between the seeds and peel, then why bother at all? Why even cracking the shell, when there is no fruit whatsoever?

>>> I eat very few nuts, maybe 10 walnuts a year, or even less, mostly none. That is the case when I get invited from none-fruitarians offering me food. To be polite, I had been eating some nuts out of their hands, even, when I do not like them very much. I never liked them, as they make my mouth rough. Neither I am eating much almonds, because it is too much work for me to open them.. Also I feel a little sickness after eating almonds and other nuts, just uncomfortable.

Yep, the light feeling of just eating watery fruit is lessened. Nuts is a really compact food.

>>> Usually i am a simple man happy with a tomato, red peppers cucumbers, avocados, lemon, Olives, oliveoil..

??? You only eat nuts you can open with your teeth and then you eat olive oil. That is funny! Hehe. Going with your philosophy, would not the right amount of olive oil be the one amount that you can press with your hands or something. Hihihi… Sorry, but sometimes my humor gets the better of me. I hope you are strong enough to resist my friendly banter.

>>> and the fruits of the season.

I like that. I wish I could do that, but you know SWEDEN. I would have to have a nine month water fast every year if I would follow that.

Nice pictures by the way.

>>> It is not the question of being destructive or a saint.. it is a answer to be fruitarian for different reasons.. If it would be all the same, we would not clear the difference in between f.e. the raw foodists and fruitarians.. they are quite different

Hmmm? How? I mean I do not like the food they eat, and they have all kinds of strange ways to "cook the food" without cooking it. To me fresh is the way, and even dried fruit is out of the picture. Dried fruit is such a strange thing. The stomach gets strange and unbalanced in so many ways.

>>> The main principle of the fruitarian philosophy may be Manu, Adam and Eve, Buddha, or the Evolution.. The fruitarian philosophy is some sort of fruit diplomatics around the nonviolence principle, Indians call it AHIMSA, as it is prayed in all Governments, Religions, and ethical statements..

But as I said before, then the same ethical code should be applied in all realms of life. It is not coherent to refuse to eat leaves and then buy paper, if one does in on moral and ethical grounds. Today I read a cool thing on a tea bag:

If you do not see God in all,

Then you do not see God at all.

… and likewise: my version:

If you do not practice ahimsa in realms all

Then you do not practice ahimsa really at all.

Cool, right? OK, it was a little too strict, but it is a nice verse.

>>> that what i am hurting or killing i would not eat..

Maybe this is too blunt, but what is really the difference between Hannibal Lecter and any normal killer? The relatives of the victims would not thank the perpetrator just because he did not eat the victims. Likewise, a mafia boss paying for so many murders is not excused just because he does not eat his enemies. Right?

>>> the heavy stuff first:

Pfew, you write heavy stuff too. That makes me glad. Then you will probably feel at ease with my directness.

>>> I also think about going back to India. My Tendency is more Nepal..

Cool. I have never been that high north. What is the temperature there wintertime?

>>> I like the Indian mentality..

Me too.

>>> Indeed, you are trying to find paradise...

Yep. Hope that WE find it.

>>> Spain has a similar climate.. and the oranges are just wonderful good.

Woooooow, that sounds sooo very nice.

Fruityful regards, Fr

Hi Fr
i am sorry that i had been interrupting, now my visit went home and soon i will be also off. it is about 3.30 in the morning and we had all a long day. Just to answer a little question:

the fastest way to come to our fruitarian forums is:
http://www.urhorn.de/wieBS/modules.php?name=Forums

We have more forums aswell the fruit eater Gremium and old fruitarian forums. my old forum had had been erased by myself, because i got a lot of spam attacs. Some fragments are still in the google - cache. I lost a lot of the most beautyful articles.

To reach the forums you also can try that link:
http://www.fruchtesser.de/forum.php
or just http://www.urhorn.de
http://www.fruitarian.de i had been redirecting to http://www.urhorn.de/wieBS/index.php

One of our mainpages with our unique fruitarian design:

http://www.fruchtesser.de/index.php roll over the surface and find the different fruits.
it will connect you with the following pages in order to the astrological system..

http://www.fruchtesser.de/0.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/1.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/2.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/3.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/4.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/5.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/6.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/7.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/8.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/9.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/a.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/b.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/c.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/d.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/e.php
http://www.fruchtesser.de/f.php



----- Original

Message -----
From: fr
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian interchange





On 5/11/07, ons@ wrote:
Dear fr


may i put our fruitarian conference into our furitarian forum?

Sure, go ahead. What forum is that by the way, and what is the address there?



It is so intersting





aswell for other fruitarians.
I had to answer similar questions various times and i will try to answer in English.

Thank you. Have a nice day!



----- Original Message -----
From: fr
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian interchange


Dear R,

>>> I am not eating herbs, neither am I picking growing herbs.

But you do weed, do you not?

During my investigating time i did both seperately to study the ethic, philosophic, practical, spiritual effects of my deeds.

I mean, is it not necessary to pull all kinds of herbs to enable the fruit plants to grow, for example strawberries?

The strawberries take care of there own, since i had been planting them.

Sometimes i give my friends some strawberriechilds to grow them in there gardens.

Karmic points of few..

If there are invadorplants or animals destroing the strawberries, i throw them out of my garden.

You can be sure, that the conversation works.

There are a lot of plants attacing others to take there places.

If you cultivate strawberries, then you can control them from the verry beginning, moving the every morning and evening with you fingertips and you will see, that not one plant will grow a seed there. You even have not to kill, because you keep your culture moving.

That means that you would be a lot of time in the garden. This is a acceptable fruitarian method, without killing.

In Nature it is completely different.

In Nature fruitarians do not have to cultivat, nor to kill, because the nature takes care of herself (in German nature is a SHE)

The nonviolent way is a privilege of very few fruitarians on this planet and it is a happy path, for very blessed humans.

That is the golden way of paradise. Only stable charakters aer able to walk that road.

What about all the plants that the fruit industry "kills" so that we can buy our fruit?

You are right. If you know all that, you can decide what you are doing, that is your responsibility.

Ther is a hirarchy of actions and reactions, depend, what we are doing, or not doing, thinking and preventing, with all our little fears, and doubts, when we grow up.

We go all through that and it makes us adult, experienced strong, knowing and sometimes wise, depend what we had been going though.

Sometimes i want to be young again to get rid of my scratched back and the bumps, to see with my fresh eyes, but knowing..

The other side arround i want not to be young, because i am much happier that i had been thrue the childhood..

Of course i will be all my life the same, as i never change, only time changes, and the time changes me in time..so i have not to be bothered, because i am at home anytime.

i was such a difficult boy, when i felt not loved..



Keeping fields of orange trees needs a lot of plant-"killing", right, ...

with the oranges it is the same..

there are different methods with diffent karmic results.

I take care about my trees and in Germany i had never been cutting a fruittree. They had never been injured. They had been high and we had been climbing up to fetch the ripe fruits.

The violent part came later and i was sorry that i had to learn so rough. I did not earn another thing.

That is my responsibility how i am acting and reacting againand again. It is so simple, nobody can describe.

that does not make me better or worse tehn any other life.

If i am attacted i am prepared to defend myself. Since some years animals do not attac me anymore, not even the insects. Very seldom Moscitos.

I have to control my net or my cave and keep it clean.

If i am awake, i do not have to kill anybody.

In my case the insects do usually not smash my car screen anymore, because we agreed that Insects shall suicid where else, if the want it for granted.

I made myself clear that i am a fruitarian without will to kill and i expected the insects to honor that detail with respect of my privacy.

Since that time all animals are my friends.

There are still some animals they are afraid of me, because i had been killing them in the past.

Meanwhile we respect eachother and leave eachother in peace, because in the past i had been really fighting with them.

I made myself clear that this i sm y home i have to take care of and that i will take my responsibility to protect my little plot of paradise as good as i can..

My lemon trees had been cut some years ago and i had to learn to cut only dry and ill parts, or overstressed endless-growing shooters, to safe the tree from dying..

That is heavy Karma and i promise with my life that i do not like to cut any tree, only when it is necessary, to save them.

That happens here, as this is a desserting zone and a lot of trees are suffering, less mine.

and if we pay these dudes and dudettes to weed for us, we are as guilty as they are.

You are right, and i try to make it as good as i can. For that reason i try to buy only biological food, if my garden is not enough.

One time a week we drive to the bio-market with a contamining car. In the moment i am working on it to reduce the car, until it is not necessary anymore.

The problem here is, that we do not enough biological food in the village yet. But that will hopefully change soon.

I had been also flying in the past and i try, not to fly anymore.

Better to be settled at one good place the whole live. If one wants to travel, he can go by bike or just walk. Nowadays all is still possible. Since seven years i am walking barefoot everywhere anywhere, exept the dirty places

I am sure you agree with me. If not, then it means you really are a saint, if you really really really can stay out of all plant killing both on your own and by giving other money.

Just a minute ago i told you that i am no saint.



the holy carries also the past..

later more i have got visit right know...ons@ru

My reason for this inquiry is just to introduce a level of thinking sometimes missed. If the reason for fruitarianism is ethical rather than for health, then should not these ethics rule equally in all spheres of life regardless if one eat the victims or not? I consider myself very ethical, but I also want to live an honest and pragmatic life.

>>> but i can theoretically take a little amount of ripe leafs, short while before they fall down from the tree, or i can take fallen leafs after a storm, if they are needed, which is very seldom..

OK, so in the realm of eating you do not harm herbs. Nice. How about all other areas of life? Do you own anything made of wood? Do you write on paper? The list goes on and actually, the way to live to avoid all these is to be a full fledged yogi, which would be very nice if possible, I agree, but it is so far above my own purity and character, that I do not consider it practical at the moment.

>>> neither i want to be dogmatic..

Good, dogmatism usually harms. Just look at the dogmatic so called religions. How much have they not broken the rule of ahimsa?

>>> I just tell you, what i know about it, as i had been investigating the fruitarian diet about 40 years. Fruitarians eat also seeds, even without chewing them, as apple, Banana, Tomato, Pepper.

Wow, how old are you? I just love figs, and eating figs would be such an incredible hassle if one had to remove the seeds.

>>> Also we can take Anis, fennel, Kumin seeds in little ammounts.. but i also i have to say, that they are not necessary, unless you have to cure a sickness with them.

I really like those herbs (seeds), especially fennel. However, in my eyes they are not really very curative are they? If so, what ailments do they cure? I suppose they have a general balancing effect and I think I remember that fennel is balancing for the mind (a sattvic herb).

>>> If you had been eating a toxic froot, from the GEN-farm you may need some fennel...

Really, I did not have a clue! So fennel just become even nicer.

>>> As wild fennel is growing in my garden, i eat some of it.. you may count the little soft grains, lets say one tablespoon every year..



>>> Fruitarians eat mainly the fruits with the seeds and some seeds they spit out, as plum-or sharp cherry-seeds. An apple seed will only get fertile, when the apple seed had been passing our digestion- system. You may try to plant an apple tree.. If you use an apple seed and plant it straight into the earth it might never grow.. when it had been predigested, the growing blockers are removed and the apple tree begins to grow.. An apple has to foul away to make the apple-seed grow-able..

Interesting.

>>> The nuts i am able to open with my mouth i can eat in little amounts, if there is no fruit around. Allergic reactions are indicating our limits and the end of our terms to use, because some nuts are reacting toxic in our body.. I accept, when other fruitarians eat nuts, but as you do, i am not really on nut-eating..i do not like the bitter taste of the skins.. nor the allergic reactions i am developing.

Hehe, who likes to be allergic?

>>> Nuts are just part of a emergency plan in a fruitarian food hierarchy and come much later.

In my eyes, nuts is outside the fruit "hierarchy". Fruit is what is between the seeds and the outer protective layer (the package). I do not mind eating the seeds of the fig, since I am focused on eating the fig flesh. However, when there is NO FRUIT between the seeds and peel, then why bother at all? Why even cracking the shell, when there is no fruit whatsoever?

>>> I eat very few nuts, maybe 10 walnuts a year, or even less, mostly none. That is the case when I get invited from none-fruitarians offering me food. To be polite, I had been eating some nuts out of their hands, even, when I do not like them very much. I never liked them, as they make my mouth rough. Neither I am eating much almonds, because it is too much work for me to open them.. Also I feel a little sickness after eating almonds and other nuts, just uncomfortable.

Yep, the light feeling of just eating watery fruit is lessened. Nuts is a really compact food.

>>> Usually i am a simple man happy with a tomato, red peppers cucumbers, avocados, lemon, Olives, oliveoil..

??? You only eat nuts you can open with your teeth and then you eat olive oil. That is funny! Hehe. Going with your philosophy, would not the right amount of olive oil be the one amount that you can press with your hands or something. Hihihi… Sorry, but sometimes my humor gets the better of me. I hope you are strong enough to resist my friendly banter.

>>> and the fruits of the season.

I like that. I wish I could do that, but you know SWEDEN. I would have to have a nine month water fast every year if I would follow that.

Nice pictures by the way.

>>> It is not the question of being destructive or a saint.. it is a answer to be fruitarian for different reasons.. If it would be all the same, we would not clear the difference in between f.e. the raw foodists and fruitarians.. they are quite different

Hmmm? How? I mean I do not like the food they eat, and they have all kinds of strange ways to "cook the food" without cooking it. To me fresh is the way, and even dried fruit is out of the picture. Dried fruit is such a strange thing. The stomach gets strange and unbalanced in so many ways.

>>> The main principle of the fruitarian philosophy may be Manu, Adam and Eve, Buddha, or the Evolution.. The fruitarian philosophy is some sort of fruit diplomatics around the nonviolence principle, Indians call it AHIMSA, as it is prayed in all Governments, Religions, and ethical statements..

But as I said before, then the same ethical code should be applied in all realms of life. It is not coherent to refuse to eat leaves and then buy paper, if one does in on moral and ethical grounds. Today I read a cool thing on a tea bag:

If you do not see God in all,

Then you do not see God at all.

… and likewise: my version:

If you do not practice ahimsa in realms all

Then you do not practice ahimsa really at all.

Cool, right? OK, it was a little too strict, but it is a nice verse.

>>> that what i am hurting or killing i would not eat..

Maybe this is too blunt, but what is really the difference between Hannibal Lecter and any normal killer? The relatives of the victims would not thank the perpetrator just because he did not eat the victims. Likewise, a mafia boss paying for so many murders is not excused just because he does not eat his enemies. Right?

>>> the heavy stuff first:

Pfew, you write heavy stuff too. That makes me glad. Then you will probably feel at ease with my directness.

>>> I also think about going back to India. My Tendency is more Nepal..

Cool. I have never been that high north. What is the temperature there wintertime?

>>> I like the Indian mentality..

Me too.

>>> Indeed, you are trying to find paradise...

Yep. Hope that WE find it.

>>> Spain has a similar climate.. and the oranges are just wonderful good.

Woooooow, that sounds sooo very nice.

Fruityful regards, Fr


Dear Fr

cultivating fruitarians are inviting and suporting their friends in their gardens
none violent furitarians as
none violent cultivating fruitarians are invited in paradise..ons@


----- Original Message -----
From: fr
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fruitarian interchange


Dear R,

>>> I am not eating herbs, neither am I picking growing herbs.

But you do weed, do you not?

During my investigating time i did both seperately to study the ethic, philosophic, practical, spiritual effects of my deeds.

In Nature: fruitarians do not have to cultivate, nor to kill, because the nature takes care of herself (in German nature is a SHE)

The nonviolent way is a privilege of very few fruitarians on this planet and it is a happy path, for very blessed humans.

That is the golden way of paradise. Only stable charakters aer able to walk that road.

What about all the plants that the fruit industry "kills" so that we can buy our fruit?

You are right. I fyou know all that, you can decide what you are doing, that is your responsibility.

Ther is a hirarchy of actions and reactions, depend, what we are doing, or not doing, thinking and preventing, with all our little fears, and doubts, when we grow up.

We go all through that and it makes us adult, experienced strong, knowing and sometimes wise, depend what we had been going though.

Sometimes i want to be young again to get rid of my scratched back and the bumps, to see with my fresh eyes, but knowing..

The other side arround i want not to be young, because i am much happier that i had been thrue the childhood..

Of course i will be all my life the same, as i never change, only time changes, and the time changes me in time..so i have not to be bothered, because i am at home anytime.

i was such a difficult boy, when i felt not loved..

Keeping fields of orange trees needs a lot of plant-"killing", right, ...

with the oranges it is the same..

there are different methods with diffent karmic results.

I take care about my trees and in Germany i had never been cutting a fruittree. They had never been injured. They had been high and we had been climbing up to fetch the ripe fruits.

The violent part came later and i was sorry that i had to learn so rough. I did not earn another thing.

That is my responsibility how i am acting and reacting againand again. It is so simple, nobody can describe.

that does not make me better or worse tehn any other life.

If i am attacted i am prepared to defend myself. Since some years animals do not attac me anymore, not even the insects. Very seldom Moscitos.

I have to control my net or my cave and keep it clean.

If i am awake, i do not have to kill anybody.

In my case the insects do usually not smash my car screen anymore, because we agreed that Insects shall suicid where else, if the want it for granted.

I made myself clear that i am a fruitarian without will to kill and i expected the insects to honor that detail with respect of my privacy.

Since that time all animals are my friends.

There are still some animals they are afraid of me, because i had been killing them in the past.

Meanwhile we respect eachother and leave eachother in peace, because in the past i had been really fighting with them.

I made myself clear that this i sm y home i have to take care of and that i will take my responsibility to protect my little plot of paradise as good as i can..

My lemon trees had been cut some years ago and i had to learn to cut only dry and ill parts, or overstressed endless-growing shooters, to safe the tree from dying..

That is heavy Karma and i promise with my life that i do not like to cut any tree, only when it is necessary, to save them.

That happens here, as this is a desserting zone and a lot of trees are suffering, less mine.

and if we pay these dudes and dudettes to weed for us, we are as guilty as they are.

You are right, and i try to make it as good as i can. For that reason i try to buy only biological food, if my garden is not enough.

One time a week we drive to the bio-market with a contamining car. In the moment i am working on it to reduce the car, until it is not necessary anymore.

The problem here is, that we do not enough biological food in the village yet. But that will hopefully change soon.

I had been also flying in the past and i try, not to fly anymore.

Better to be settled at one good place the whole live. If one wants to travel, he can go by bike or just walk. Nowadays all is still possible. Since seven years i am walking barefoot everywhere anywhere, exept the dirty places

I am sure you agree with me. If not, then it means you really are a saint, if you really really really can stay out of all plant killing both on your own and by giving other money.

Just a minute ago i told you that i am no saint.



the holy carries also the past..

later more i have got visit right know...ons@ru

My reason for this inquiry is just to introduce a level of thinking sometimes missed. If the reason for fruitarianism is ethical rather than for health, then should not these ethics rule equally in all spheres of life regardless if one eat the victims or not? I consider myself very ethical, but I also want to live an honest and pragmatic life.

>>> but i can theoretically take a little amount of ripe leafs, short while before they fall down from the tree, or i can take fallen leafs after a storm, if they are needed, which is very seldom..

OK, so in the realm of eating you do not harm herbs. Nice. How about all other areas of life? Do you own anything made of wood? Do you write on paper? The list goes on and actually, the way to live to avoid all these is to be a full fledged yogi, which would be very nice if possible, I agree, but it is so far above my own purity and character, that I do not consider it practical at the moment.

>>> neither i want to be dogmatic..

Good, dogmatism usually harms. Just look at the dogmatic so called religions. How much have they not broken the rule of ahimsa?

>>> I just tell you, what i know about it, as i had been investigating the fruitarian diet about 40 years. Fruitarians eat also seeds, even without chewing them, as apple, Banana, Tomato, Pepper.

Wow, how old are you? I just love figs, and eating figs would be such an incredible hassle if one had to remove the seeds.

>>> Also we can take Anis, fennel, Kumin seeds in little ammounts.. but i also i have to say, that they are not necessary, unless you have to cure a sickness with them.

I really like those herbs (seeds), especially fennel. However, in my eyes they are not really very curative are they? If so, what ailments do they cure? I suppose they have a general balancing effect and I think I remember that fennel is balancing for the mind (a sattvic herb).

>>> If you had been eating a toxic froot, from the GEN-farm you may need some fennel...

Really, I did not have a clue! So fennel just become even nicer.

>>> As wild fennel is growing in my garden, i eat some of it.. you may count the little soft grains, lets say one tablespoon every year..



>>> Fruitarians eat mainly the fruits with the seeds and some seeds they spit out, as plum-or sharp cherry-seeds. An apple seed will only get fertile, when the apple seed had been passing our digestion- system. You may try to plant an apple tree.. If you use an apple seed and plant it straight into the earth it might never grow.. when it had been predigested, the growing blockers are removed and the apple tree begins to grow.. An apple has to foul away to make the apple-seed grow-able..

Interesting.

>>> The nuts i am able to open with my mouth i can eat in little amounts, if there is no fruit around. Allergic reactions are indicating our limits and the end of our terms to use, because some nuts are reacting toxic in our body.. I accept, when other fruitarians eat nuts, but as you do, i am not really on nut-eating..i do not like the bitter taste of the skins.. nor the allergic reactions i am developing.

Hehe, who likes to be allergic?

>>> Nuts are just part of a emergency plan in a fruitarian food hierarchy and come much later.

In my eyes, nuts is outside the fruit "hierarchy". Fruit is what is between the seeds and the outer protective layer (the package). I do not mind eating the seeds of the fig, since I am focused on eating the fig flesh. However, when there is NO FRUIT between the seeds and peel, then why bother at all? Why even cracking the shell, when there is no fruit whatsoever?

>>> I eat very few nuts, maybe 10 walnuts a year, or even less, mostly none. That is the case when I get invited from none-fruitarians offering me food. To be polite, I had been eating some nuts out of their hands, even, when I do not like them very much. I never liked them, as they make my mouth rough. Neither I am eating much almonds, because it is too much work for me to open them.. Also I feel a little sickness after eating almonds and other nuts, just uncomfortable.

Yep, the light feeling of just eating watery fruit is lessened. Nuts is a really compact food.

>>> Usually i am a simple man happy with a tomato, red peppers cucumbers, avocados, lemon, Olives, oliveoil..

??? You only eat nuts you can open with your teeth and then you eat olive oil. That is funny! Hehe. Going with your philosophy, would not the right amount of olive oil be the one amount that you can press with your hands or something. Hihihi… Sorry, but sometimes my humor gets the better of me. I hope you are strong enough to resist my friendly banter.

>>> and the fruits of the season.

I like that. I wish I could do that, but you know SWEDEN. I would have to have a nine month water fast every year if I would follow that.

Nice pictures by the way.

>>> It is not the question of being destructive or a saint.. it is a answer to be fruitarian for different reasons.. If it would be all the same, we would not clear the difference in between f.e. the raw foodists and fruitarians.. they are quite different

Hmmm? How? I mean I do not like the food they eat, and they have all kinds of strange ways to "cook the food" without cooking it. To me fresh is the way, and even dried fruit is out of the picture. Dried fruit is such a strange thing. The stomach gets strange and unbalanced in so many ways.

>>> The main principle of the fruitarian philosophy may be Manu, Adam and Eve, Buddha, or the Evolution.. The fruitarian philosophy is some sort of fruit diplomatics around the nonviolence principle, Indians call it AHIMSA, as it is prayed in all Governments, Religions, and ethical statements..

But as I said before, then the same ethical code should be applied in all realms of life. It is not coherent to refuse to eat leaves and then buy paper, if one does in on moral and ethical grounds. Today I read a cool thing on a tea bag:

If you do not see God in all,

Then you do not see God at all.

… and likewise: my version:

If you do not practice ahimsa in realms all

Then you do not practice ahimsa really at all.

Cool, right? OK, it was a little too strict, but it is a nice verse.

>>> that what i am hurting or killing i would not eat..

Maybe this is too blunt, but what is really the difference between Hannibal Lecter and any normal killer? The relatives of the victims would not thank the perpetrator just because he did not eat the victims. Likewise, a mafia boss paying for so many murders is not excused just because he does not eat his enemies. Right?

>>> the heavy stuff first:

Pfew, you write heavy stuff too. That makes me glad. Then you will probably feel at ease with my directness.

>>> I also think about going back to India. My Tendency is more Nepal..

Cool. I have never been that high north. What is the temperature there wintertime?

>>> I like the Indian mentality..

Me too.

>>> Indeed, you are trying to find paradise...

Yep. Hope that WE find it.

>>> Spain has a similar climate.. and the oranges are just wonderful good.

Woooooow, that sounds sooo very nice.

Fruityful regards, Fr



>>> I am not eating herbs, neither am I picking growing herbs.

But you do weed, do you not? I mean, is it not necessary to pull all kinds of herbs to enable the fruit plants to grow, for example strawberries? What about all the plants that the fruit industry "kills" so that we can buy our fruit? Keeping fields of orange trees needs a lot of plant-"killing", right, and if we pay these dudes and dudettes to weed for us, we are as guilty as they are. I am sure you agree with me. If not, then it means you really are a saint, if you really really really can stay out of all plant killing both on your own and by giving other money.

My reason for this inquiry is just to introduce a level of thinking sometimes missed. If the reason for fruitarianism is ethical rather than for health, then should not these ethics rule equally in all spheres of life regardless if one eat the victims or not? I consider myself very ethical, but I also want to live an honest and pragmatic life.

>>> but i can theoretically take a little amount of ripe leafs, short while before they fall down from the tree, or i can take fallen leafs after a storm, if they are needed, which is very seldom..

OK, so in the realm of eating you do not harm herbs. Nice. How about all other areas of life? Do you own anything made of wood? Do you write on paper? The list goes on and actually, the way to live to avoid all these is to be a full fledged yogi, which would be very nice if possible, I agree, but it is so far above my own purity and character, that I do not consider it practical at the moment.

>>> neither i want to be dogmatic..

Good, dogmatism usually harms. Just look at the dogmatic so called religions. How much have they not broken the rule of ahimsa?

>>> I just tell you, what i know about it, as i had been investigating the fruitarian diet about 40 years. Fruitarians eat also seeds, even without chewing them, as apple, Banana, Tomato, Pepper.

Wow, how old are you? I just love figs, and eating figs would be such an incredible hassle if one had to remove the seeds.

>>> Also we can take Anis, fennel, Kumin seeds in little ammounts.. but i also i have to say, that they are not necessary, unless you have to cure a sickness with them.

I really like those herbs (seeds), especially fennel. However, in my eyes they are not really very curative are they? If so, what ailments do they cure? I suppose they have a general balancing effect and I think I remember that fennel is balancing for the mind (a sattvic herb).

>>> If you had been eating a toxic froot, from the GEN-farm you may need some fennel...

Really, I did not have a clue! So fennel just become even nicer.

>>> As wild fennel is growing in my garden, i eat some of it.. you may count the little soft grains, lets say one tablespoon every year..



>>> Fruitarians eat mainly the fruits with the seeds and some seeds they spit out, as plum-or sharp cherry-seeds. An apple seed will only get fertile, when the apple seed had been passing our digestion- system. You may try to plant an apple tree.. If you use an apple seed and plant it straight into the earth it might never grow.. when it had been predigested, the growing blockers are removed and the apple tree

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s to my fruitarian friends
Hey all I am having trouble posting my music as an attachment. I browse then add it. When i go to view attachments It is not there? Then I go back page and it says the page has timed out. Help.

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Thank you for your request.
I 'll check the forums-configuration..
How big are the files? Please tell me how many MB's do your soundfiles have?
In any case:

You may send me your tracks in mp3 per mail and i will upload it with ftp on our server. Your copyrights are save at our fruitariansites, i will not sell them. They are yours.

Personally i store my songs independently on our servers in mp3-files.

may be we prepare upload movies or soundfiles in switzerland on our traditional fruit-space http://www.urhorn.de/wieBS/ if you are subscribed aswell there. We are able to use 10 GB in Switzerland. In Germany we have also a Gig - that should be enough.
Tell me you wishes and we will find a conclusion. I am happy when you are happy.